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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 2:16 pm 
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I have been searching for the past 3 days and have not seen a similar situation as mine.

I borked my firmware upgrade by using the wrong firmware on my XV858 LE copy. When it powers up a clicking sound is constant from the speaker and any presses on the icons just shows an unlocking padlock animation.

Windows can see the the 2 drives (RockChip USB MP3 Device & RockChip SD USB Device) but for the life of me I cannot get the Consumer update to see the device.

I have shorted the memory chip pins until windows re-recognizes the device and the display shows kind of a computer monitor icon with a drive attached. (I was assuming this was the update screen). Consumer Update will not see the player to start the firmware update.
I have tried both 2.8.1 & 3.1.2.0 versions of Consumer Update and they both give the same results. I've also tried holding the menu button and all other buttons as the usb cable is plugged in. No matter what I have tried, the results are the same...Windows sees 2 drives, assigns them drive letters and the update software says no usb found.

A link to the pics I took of the unit is here: http://picasaweb.google.com/RonB1964/VX858LE

If anyone has any suggestions please let me know.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 3:45 pm 
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for a start what brand.... and are you using OEM firmwear? the two drives is fine because of the mini sd slot(RockchipSD USB device) it attomatically shows it like a empty computer drive.... don't worry about it.
but check the firmwear i am guessing you are using the wrong type of firmwear.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 3:48 pm 
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Also i would wait do to anything else untill the user: VX858 or the admin respond to this.... they know a lot more than i do, they will be able to help you.....


P.S. do you have the original firmwear. if you do download that, and you will be fine.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 10:22 pm 
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I have looked at the pictures and it is the VX858LE clone. But the thing that's weird is that it's a VX858LE clone and it appears he put the OEM VX858 firmware that Raz (the admin) posted up on the forums, and that firmware shouldn't brick this clone.

All I can really say is keep up the recovery efforts.

Here a picture of the internals of a VX858LE clone (picture from YZ Digital):
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Compare it with ronb1964's mainboard:
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When I compare them I see minor differences in the chip location. Probably when you get the computer to recognize your VX858LE clone as a "rockusb" device then see if the ConsumerUpdate program will recognize the VX858LE clone. Since the OEM VX858 firmware is not working for you, probably you should try official ONDA VX858LE or VX858 firmware. I not saying that it's going to work, but Raz (the admin) did say older batches of these clones can use official ONDA VX858 or VX858LE firmware.

If you have another working computer that's decent (running Windows 2000 or XP at least, with at least 1 USB 1.1 port) then install ConsumerUpdate on that computer and try updating your VX858LE clone if it's detected as "rockusb" or something like that.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 11:40 pm 
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Thanks for all the replies...I have tried the consumer update on another XP computer with the same results except that I believe XP recognized it as a rockusb rather that a generic volume. However, the consumer update gave the same results - no usb found.

This is the unit I purchased a couple of weeks before Christmas:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... Y.m311.lVI

The firmware I used when I bricked it was was VX858's modified OEM VX858 firmware I believe. I was dowloading a few and I don't remember which one exactly bricked it. I do know that I was using the latest version of consumer update and that the first firmware I tried was the wrong one.

Does anyone know if the screen showing the computer graphic is in fact the the update screen? I 'm thinking that the player is not getting to that point and that's why the update software cannot see it.

Anyway, I'll play around some more as soon as I solder the red battery lead back on the board. I knew after all this moving around that sooner or later one of the battery wires would break off. Who knows, maybe the power disconnection will snap this thing back...but I'm never that lucky.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 11:52 pm 
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ronb1964 wrote:
Thanks for all the replies...I have tried the consumer update on another XP computer with the same results except that I believe XP recognized it as a rockusb rather that a generic volume. However, the consumer update gave the same results - no usb found.

This is the unit I purchased a couple of weeks before Christmas:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... Y.m311.lVI

The firmware I used when I bricked it was was VX858's modified OEM VX858 firmware I believe. I was dowloading a few and I don't remember which one exactly bricked it. I do know that I was using the latest version of consumer update and that the first firmware I tried was the wrong one.

Does anyone know if the screen showing the computer graphic is in fact the the update screen? I 'm thinking that the player is not getting to that point and that's why the update software cannot see it.

Anyway, I'll play around some more as soon as I solder the red battery lead back on the board. I knew after all this moving around that sooner or later one of the battery wires would break off. Who knows, maybe the power disconnection will snap this thing back...but I'm never that lucky.


The chances are that the battery disconnection resets the unit back into working condition I think is 0, since the firmware is stored somewhere in the MP4 player that wouldn't be erased just by disconnecting the internal battery.

My modified OEM VX858 firmware shouldn't cause problems for OEM VX858 MP4 players. A few users with OEM VX858 MP4 players have used it without problem.

To confirm it's my edited firmware, does it show "ONDA" when you start the MP4 player up, or does it show "Mini MP4 Player"?

Anyways it appears to be OEM VX858 firmware, so the admin's OEM VX858 firmware might not work for all unbranded VX858LE clones.

If you have another computer around your house that's decent, then try on that computer. When it recognizes "rockusb", does the Install Hardware thing say that it's done installing drivers and the device is ready to be used?

The short-pin procedure is working since the computer is recognizing it as "rockusb", but looks like in this case the ConsumerUpdate program is not cooperating with the recovery.

UPDATE: Try to use the ConsumerUpdate 3.1.0.0 program. It's newer than 2.8.1 but older than 3.1.2.0, so there's a slim chance this program will further recognize your bricked player after Windows recognizes the player as "rockusb", allowing you to load firmware onto your bricked VX858LE clone.

Download link for ConsumerUpdate 3.1.0.0 here (currently hosted on MEGAUPLOAD): http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ISACU6HX

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 12:14 am 
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Thanks VX858...Yes the new firmware had the animated "ONDA" startup. The original had the cheap looking "Mini MP4" startup and "Goodbye" instead of "Bye Bye" shutdown.

I'm going out to buy a new soldering iron now as I can't find my old one. When I get back I'll do the repair, download the recommended consumer update and try it all again on the other computer. I'll let you know what happens.

If or when I get it back to life I guess I'll have to use VX858 LE firmware but before I do I'll check with you guys as far as which one I should try.

If it get's too late, I want to wish you all a Happy New Year and thanks again for all the help. I'm hoping to contribute soon with my own modified firmware as soon as I figure all this out.

Ron


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 3:45 am 
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HAPPY NEW YEAR Guys!!

Update:

I repaired the battery connection, used the other XP computer...aaannnddd...SAME RESULTS!! It sucks to be me in 2008. All these other people who bricked their players seemed to have been able to reverse the problem. But I'm not the type to give up so I think I'm going to install Windows 98 on my linux box in a virtual machine and see if I can get consumer update to see it then. Other than that I've tried numerous versions of the update software, various button presses during boot as well as uninstalling the drivers for the player.

One more question - Should Windows XP be seeing the player as something other than a generic volume? It's labeled as Rock USB but the driver used is for a generic volume, just like what's used for my usb pen drive.

Any other suggestions, no matter how far out, would be appreciated.

Thanks again.

Ron


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 4:07 am 
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ronb1964 wrote:
HAPPY NEW YEAR Guys!!

Update:

I repaired the battery connection, used the other XP computer...aaannnddd...SAME RESULTS!! It sucks to be me in 2008. All these other people who bricked their players seemed to have been able to reverse the problem. But I'm not the type to give up so I think I'm going to install Windows 98 on my linux box in a virtual machine and see if I can get consumer update to see it then. Other than that I've tried numerous versions of the update software, various button presses during boot as well as uninstalling the drivers for the player.

One more question - Should Windows XP be seeing the player as something other than a generic volume? It's labeled as Rock USB but the driver used is for a generic volume, just like what's used for my usb pen drive.

Any other suggestions, no matter how far out, would be appreciated.

Thanks again.

Ron


It should detect the device as "rockusb".

Since your PC is using generic volume drivers (which we don't want) I have included drivers officially from the manufacturer of Rockchip so your computer can correctly identify the rockusb device.

Here is a download link: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=6MEXDJOK

It is in .sys and .inf files. Included drivers are for Windows 98, 2000, and XP.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 9:35 am 
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PROGRESS!!!

I needed to get a little fancier with my tweezer work, but now I can get the update software to see the player. I'm currently in the process of trying a few different firmware files to see if I can get one to work.

The one that came on the driver disk is corrupt I think so I'm trying all of VX858's firmware files.

I'll keep you posted.

Ron


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