I'm getting an Ainol Tornados in :-)

dragon2knight · **Posted:** Sat Jul 14, 2012 5:42 am

Raz wrote:

Sorry that the tab jumped the the rails, i am not sure why Ainol don't release the stock firmware or at least do what they did on the first Novo8 and keep the original firmware as backup on the tablet, which can then be restored in events like you had D2K. I don't actually think Ainols support is better or worse than any other of the China tab companies, they generally don't want to deal with anything complicated, they are happier with hardware problems where the fix is just something that needs to be replaced or soldered.

Generally speaking to people thinking about loading third party ROMS or even updating, if you're happy with how things are, then don't make a change unless these is a large amount of positive response to the update or third party rom.

Trust me when I say this, Ainol is worse than the other top brands in China....at least the others upload their roms to their website for reuse...Ainol simply wont do it, and they arent giving any feasable explanation for this. At least they are getting decent custom rom support, thats seems to be their saving grace, at least for now. I cant, and wont, knock the hardware on the Tornados, its the best bang for the buck out there right now...just know your support is very limited from the factory.

maderin1 · **Joined:** Sun Sep 30, 2007 2:50 pm **Posts:** 20627

seriously - you mean there literally is an SD card plugged onto the board?? well, is it removable?? - just bought a 16gb card for my son for all of 6 british pounds

neo222 · **Joined:** Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:15 pm **Posts:** 14

^ Even i bought myself a 16gb Samsung class 10 card..looks likes its good enuf only to store Movies, Songs , videos and not apps & Games...Tried..yesterday ...hard for nearly 2+hrs to get the Apps and Games into the External SD card...it moved but the apps/games no longer worked...All my GTA III progress is now screwed

dragon2knight · **Posted:** Sat Jul 14, 2012 7:56 am

maderin1 wrote:

seriously - you mean there literally is an SD card plugged onto the board?? well, is it removable?? - just bought a 16gb card for my son for all of 6 british pounds

I'm sure you could remove it....if you wanted to destroy your tab, that is. The Tornados is glued together, no screws at all, and the bezel is pretty thin, guaranteed to break it if trying to remove it(some have tried, none have succeeded...).

dragon2knight · **Posted:** Sat Jul 14, 2012 7:57 am

neo222 wrote:

^ Even i bought myself a 16gb Samsung class 10 card..looks likes its good enuf only to store Movies, Songs , videos and not apps & Games...Tried..yesterday ...hard for nearly 2+hrs to get the Apps and Games into the External SD card...it moved but the apps/games no longer worked...All my GTA III progress is now screwed

Like I said, nothing works for that purpose, just buy the bigger one(16GB) if you really need the space.

Raz · **Joined:** Fri Jul 25, 2003 5:53 am **Posts:** 22200

Isn't the SD card in the tablet partitioned, one for the system and apps and the other partition to act as storage of media?

A lot of tablets now do the SD card over nand as the price is substantially different, i think a 8GB microsd direct from factory is as cheap as $1-2 depending on class and manufacturer, whereas 8GB nand is still somewhere in the region of $8-$12 depending on time of the month and price fixing by Samsung and Hynix...haha. If we were to make a nationite tab i would also opt for SD card, its the same shit and in some cases the sd card has a faster rate of data transfer than standard nand.

A question on the firmware for other China brands, did they release the original firmware also for the tabs that run on Amlogic processors? If not then it could be some issue with the design house limiting the release of the base firmware that ships with the tabs, this would not really surprise me if it were the case, if not then Ainol are just being stupid and stubborn.

dragon2knight · **Posted:** Tue Jul 17, 2012 9:59 pm

Raz wrote:

Isn't the SD card in the tablet partitioned, one for the system and apps and the other partition to act as storage of media?

A lot of tablets now do the SD card over nand as the price is substantially different, i think a 8GB microsd direct from factory is as cheap as $1-2 depending on class and manufacturer, whereas 8GB nand is still somewhere in the region of $8-$12 depending on time of the month and price fixing by Samsung and Hynix...haha. If we were to make a nationite tab i would also opt for SD card, its the same shit and in some cases the sd card has a faster rate of data transfer than standard nand.

A question on the firmware for other China brands, did they release the original firmware also for the tabs that run on Amlogic processors? If not then it could be some issue with the design house limiting the release of the base firmware that ships with the tabs, this would not really surprise me if it were the case, if not then Ainol are just being stupid and stubborn.

The sd over nand thing can be a good thing for most tablets, especially if you can get at it and switch it out...sadly the Tornados cant be opened up without destroying it, so it dosent fit in that category...but at least you get a choice of 8 or 16GB, and it still a steal at either price.
I've seen firmware released for the earlier versions of Amlogic tabs, but since Ainol seems to be the only ones with the newest ones that I have seen so far, its up to them to release the firmware that works on their tabs. These's no reason for not releasing your own firmware...its just plain stupid.At least Ainol have good to great after sale custom firmware's from some of the best developers out there...it's been their saving grace.

Raz · **Joined:** Fri Jul 25, 2003 5:53 am **Posts:** 22200

dragon2knight wrote:

The sd over nand thing can be a good thing for most tablets, especially if you can get at it and switch it out...sadly the Tornados cant be opened up without destroying it, so it dosent fit in that category...but at least you get a choice of 8 or 16GB, and it still a steal at either price.
I've seen firmware released for the earlier versions of Amlogic tabs, but since Ainol seems to be the only ones with the newest ones that I have seen so far, its up to them to release the firmware that works on their tabs. These's no reason for not releasing your own firmware...its just plain stupid.At least Ainol have good to great after sale custom firmware's from some of the best developers out there...it's been their saving grace.

methinks still that the reason for them not posting the original rom is due to other people copying it and using it to make their own amlogic tabs without paying the dev house, in China its usually due to issues of $$$ and copying that stupid things like this happen.

BTW can anyone confirm that the Android OS does sit on a partition of the microsd and not on some small built in nand flash memory?

dragon2knight · **Posted:** Fri Jul 20, 2012 8:42 pm

Raz wrote:

methinks still that the reason for them not posting the original rom is due to other people copying it and using it to make their own amlogic tabs without paying the dev house, in China its usually due to issues of $$$ and copying that stupid things like this happen.

BTW can anyone confirm that the Android OS does sit on a partition of the microsd and not on some small built in nand flash memory?

It looks like it's on the sd card to me.

NewUser1 · **Joined:** Mon Aug 06, 2012 9:31 am **Posts:** 3

If i buy this tablet now off of this site (mp4nation), will it ship with the stock firmware or the newer (crummy) firmware?

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