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PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2010 12:19 am 
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hey can you test out what the bass on a dubstep song is like? btw how did you get them so quick? did you buy them or whr u asked to review?


I should have stated that I am one of the reviewers sent an early pair(now fixed). I dont even have to listen to any dubstep to know these will work great with it.Bass at all levels on the M2's work out very well,and all of the clips that come along with dubsteps will come out clear and full. M2's are really right up dubstep's ally :) I had a fairly large collection of dubstep awhile back, wish I had these to listen to it with :mrgreen:

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PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2010 12:23 am 
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big-man wrote:
hey can you test out what the bass on a dubstep song is like? btw how did you get them so quick? did you buy them or whr u asked to review?


I should have stated that I am one of the reviewers sent an early pair. I dont even have to listen to any dubstep to know these will work great with it.Bass at all levels on the M2's work out very well,and all of the clips that come along with dubsteps will come out clear and full. M2's are really right up dubstep's ally :) I had a fairly large collection of dubstep awhile back, wish I had these to listen to it with :mrgreen:


awesome =) nice to know lol

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PostPosted: Sat May 22, 2010 12:42 am 
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I was confused by seeing this thread as started by me - until I saw the admin comments. :-)

In defense of the technical jargon - if you just read that headphones are good with a certain song and don't specify exactly why, the reason you like them might be the reason someone else hates them. Even if you say that the vocals are great with a particular track, some people like vocals presented recessed - as in a larger arena, or forward and intimate as in a private audition. Then you have clarity, detail, warmth vs. smoothness etc. . .

It may seem that reviewers get carried away by the details, but once you know what the terms mean - that would more accurately allow you to tailor headphones to your personal preferences. People hear differently, so the details and jargon are often an attempt at making objective comparisons.

That said, I'm glad that both kinds of reviews are readily available both here and at head-fi.


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PostPosted: Sat May 22, 2010 5:37 am 
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I was confused by seeing this thread as started by me - until I saw the admin comments. :-)

In defense of the technical jargon - if you just read that headphones are good with a certain song and don't specify exactly why, the reason you like them might be the reason someone else hates them. Even if you say that the vocals are great with a particular track, some people like vocals presented recessed - as in a larger arena, or forward and intimate as in a private audition. Then you have clarity, detail, warmth vs. smoothness etc. . .

It may seem that reviewers get carried away by the details, but once you know what the terms mean - that would more accurately allow you to tailor headphones to your personal preferences. People hear differently, so the details and jargon are often an attempt at making objective comparisons.

That said, I'm glad that both kinds of reviews are readily available both here and at head-fi.


Got nothing against the jargon,but most folks really dont care about it, they just want a baseline on how the headphones sound with the type of music they prefer.I own a computer store,and most of my customers just want something that "just works",without all the technobabble that comes along with most computer sales.Solid,well built,and current,all they care about.I am a tech minded person myself,and really appreciate a good review,tech talk and all,if just for the fact that Im learning something new.Head-Fi offers me that experience,and they also, although not as much as they could,offer a non tech approach as well.As the saying goes,to each his own :wink:

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PostPosted: Sat May 22, 2010 4:08 pm 
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Anyone knows when the M2s will be ready to ship? It is now the last week of May? Are there any delays?


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PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2010 7:37 pm 
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Dont worry Lisztian, raz said they are due to arrive ~tuesday this week comming, starting tuesday is technically the last week (this month ends on a 31st, monday) so yes its on course so we should see them in little over a week or two (depending on shipping!) :) .


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PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2010 6:59 am 
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To try and explain my concern - if you were to say that you loved these for classical music without digging into the details, the reasons you love these headphones could be the reasons a reader hates them.

For classical - you might love the fact that the high frequencies (treble) are totally unfatiguing and have no sibilance. But the fact that the highs are not well extended or sparkly could be a major detractor for me (in fact - I consider that this headphone's only real weakness). If you just say these headphones are great for classical without digging into the details - we could have drastically different opinions. Does that make sense?

Then again - if the reader doesn't like to dig into the details, odds are they won't have trained ears to notice the deficiencies. :-)


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PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2010 6:16 pm 
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not everybody looks for details, I personally hate it when a phone is harsh. The high notes can really be annoying sometimes, you don't need to be an audiophile to enjoy the music. I'd rather prefer something smooth than an high-end phone that is fatiguing or harsh or has too much details that it becomes too distracting.

I'm not in the music industry, so I don't need a phone that monitors all the sounds. All it takes is for me to relax and enjoy the music without thinking about it.


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PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2010 8:25 pm 
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Ha! And there's an example as to how the jargon can get in the way. I wasn't referring to details in the audio sense. Other users above were just advocating saying that the headphones sound great with certain songs or music - without explaining exactly why. THOSE were the details I was referring to. :-)

I was just trying to say that you can't just say that a headphone sounds great - because the reason you think it sounds great, might make it terrible for someone else. Heck, there have been similar debates and arguments about iem's that cost several hundred dollars. The TF10 vs. SE530 debate was amusing - only because of how each was tuned.


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After reading through this thread, I think I've decided on pre-ordering the M2s over the M1s. I'm not a basshead myself, though I do like the bass to be clear and tight, but not too overprominent that it drowns out the highs and mids. I like the highs to be clear and sparkly, but not so much that its stressing on the ears. It seems from these reviews that these sound good in the types of music I usually listen to, Rock, Alternative, country, jazz, R&B (easy listening?), and Drum & Bass. I didn't see anyone test these on music like The Prodigy and Pendulum, but these would probably be right up their alley judging from the impressions above.

Thanks for the informative reviews! (just wish there was a thread like this to compare the m1s with before the preorder date ran out, to make the choice easier ;p )

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