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I'm in indignation, becouse information my 2GB order BTW tracking hasn't been posted till now!
My order number is 22642. I ask to update the information persistently to be assured that it's all OK with my order

The slfo2 was listed as preorder so it was not misleading, its my understanding that Raz and nationite are not resposible for delays as it was due to lack of parts from the factory and then their bad communication resulting in a further delay. When you work with 3rd parties for stock you have this risk and I personnally feel sorry for Raz as he is constantly having to appologes about factors above his direct control, I have experience with this and it sucks. He's kept us updated has also offered a full refund to those who have requested it which is fair. Personally I am happy as I will receve some nicely discounted M2s.

To change the tone, what albums are you all most looking forward to hearing on the sflo2, I have re ripped my Orbital collection to FLAC and have some HD650s hopefully coming for my birthday (I buy myself the best presents) which shold be an awesome headphones for an awesome DAP .

Also what amps are you all using with the sflo2 or mainly HP out?

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Current Cans: Ultrasone Pro 900, Denon D2000, Sen' HD650 , Ultrasone HFI-780 Brainwavs M2
Current Source & Amps: PC: Asus Xonar STX + Matrix M-Stage V2 Class A bias mod , S:flo2

Actually thats PayPal/Worldpay system, your accounts are always debited right away, we do not personally charge your account. This is also why so many other vendors do the same.



Just open a support ticket if you do not want to wait any longer and we will cancel your order.



Tracking will be uploaded to accounts starting tomorrow.

I'm looking forward to hearing Darkdancer by Les Rythmes Digitales and all three Boy Hits Car albums. My neighbours must know every lyric by now

Am jealous that your getting HD650s. I'm currently saving for some Beyerdynamics 250/80s and the wait is torture, even though I know I'll look even more stupid wearing them on the train than with my current h/phones.

I'm going to try the HP out first, I'd only be using a Fiio E5 through the LO anyway and it would be a shame to add any noise to the signal unless necessary. Besides, Swanlee has got me curious about the HP sound and apparently the HP amp can drive even pretty hungry h/phones. Though I remember there being some debate on that.

I'm looking forward to hearing Darkdancer by Les Rythmes Digitales and all three Boy Hits Car albums. My neighbours must know every lyric by now ]

The BD 250s look quality can't go wrong with beyer, I have ultrasone hfi-780 which are pretty decent but I miss the open sennheiser sound that i had with my old HD580s beofre they broke and the 650 has great reviews.

I to here The sflo2 HP out is meant to be pretty powerfull hopefully an amp wont be needed (but wanted) , I'd bet that the internal amp would be as good as the LO + E5. I've got and e5 and CMOY BB we'll see how they all fair and maybe pickup an ibasso or e7 or mid price amp if they do make a big difference.. all these new toys hurt my wallet, damn head-fi.org lol.

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Current Cans: Ultrasone Pro 900, Denon D2000, Sen' HD650 , Ultrasone HFI-780 Brainwavs M2
Current Source & Amps: PC: Asus Xonar STX + Matrix M-Stage V2 Class A bias mod , S:flo2

HD650s are not meant to be driven with a DAP. Will you get sound? Yes. Will you get loud sound? Yes. Will you get good sound? No. Unfortunately people are mislead in this area. A set of phones like the HD650 (which I own by he way) require a dedicated quality "home" setup to really reach their full potential. It bothers me every time I see people doing exactly ehat you are doing because somehow, somewhere you were mislead to believe it is all good. Even my most powerful portable amp the RSA SR-71A (which runs on (2) 9 volts batteries!) does not make the HD650's shine.

Solution: Compile a list of people who would like to order a product.

When the vendor (actually) has the stock, email potential customers that the gear (whatever it may be) is available and ask for payment.

Win Win

Unless of course there are real reasons a vendor needs to hold onto people's money for extended periods without filling an order.

Thanks for the comments although I'm not really mislead just did not give a full extent of my understanding and situation, I am far from in the dark. I know that the general consensus is that a dedicated amp is needed to best drive high impedance cans from being a head-fi.org lurker.

I will use the sflo2 with mainly M2 IEMs and HFI-780 ultrasones which are only 32ohm which should deliver full potential. The HD650s will primarily be for my home seup PC (Asus xonar DX) + new amp yet to be decided (Pico slim / ibasso D4 / Fiio E7 / mini dot / headamp or cheaper alternate ) integrating the Sflo2 for music.

Although Im sure that there are LO / portable amps combos that can easily drive 650s or atleast ones with 12v DC and even with just the sflo2 HP or out will sound a fair bit better than most ordinary cans. Quality home setups don't come cheap and I will buy the best combo I can afford just becasue you dont have an amp does not mean you should not buy the sennheisers, out of interest what would you say be the minimum amp to drive 650s?

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Current Cans: Ultrasone Pro 900, Denon D2000, Sen' HD650 , Ultrasone HFI-780 Brainwavs M2
Current Source & Amps: PC: Asus Xonar STX + Matrix M-Stage V2 Class A bias mod , S:flo2

Wow, I just saw that the 650s have an impedance of 300ohm, I had no idea they are so hungry! And I thought the 250ohm BD range was overdoing it, that puts me in my place

I'm clearly not an expert (as shown above) but yeah that would be a lot of power required from the S:flo2 unamped. Still, like you said BlutoSlice, you should be fine with your M2s and most less demanding cans.

I'm so desperate for my S:flo2 now, I hope we'll be given good news tomorrow.

I'm looking forward to hearing the album Luke and the Locomotives (ripped from XRCD version) by Robert Lucas. This album's clarity is very impressive, and Lucas' blues style is gritty and top-notch. I also want to take another listen to Mojo Radio by the French group Lojo]Biosciencegeek[/i]. However, with the strong headphones-out of the S:Flo2 I don't expect to really need the amp...I was just itching to heat up the soldering iron again