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 Post subject: Missil 4302HD 'MP5' player. (PMP, review.)
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MISSIL MP5 PLAYER REVIEW.
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Since there is no section for Missil, nor is it a discontinued player. I decided to put a little review for this thing up here. From what I noticed so far, it's a rather recent little thing. It's firmware is from March 2009, at least what was on the disc it came with... The player itself though has one from June 2009 I believe but, more on that later.

An introduction! I'm Denji and, I seem to always get myself caught up with little things like this. Cheapie little PMPs or MP3 players from various companies and various countries, each and every one being so similar yet--So different and 'fickle' in a way. Recently this christmas I got what is called a 'Missil 4302HD MP5' player. The packaging itself was just that annoying plastic stuff. It reeked of cheap all over the package, that sort of really cheap plastic and the thought of the thing just being coated in enough lead to send one to the hospital went through my mind.

I opened it up, the instruction manual was useless but the first thing I had noticed about it was.. How /heavy/ it was! It wasn't a bad sort of heavy but, I was so used to these cheap things having a giant case with nothing inside of them. It was shocking, to say the least.

But for now, specifications!

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SPECS: (Taken from the manual, beware of the horrible engrish!)
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- FM radio, E-Book reader, micro SD card slot, song lyric display. (Oh my! By E-Book reader they mean generic .txt files. HORRAY!)
- Large 4.3" TFT LCD display shows pictures, documents, menus. (Wait, is that something special to list? If I had a PMP with a screen that couldn't show pictures of menus I'd return it thinking it was broken!)
- Hi-speed USB 2.0 connection, rechargeable polymer battery (Again, is this necessary? Do you really need to tell me it's USB 2.0? /Really/?)
- Includes, remote, stereo earphones, USB & AV cables plus software disc. (Horray, free headphones that sound terrible and gives you even more lead to poison yourself with! HORRAY.)
- U-disc function for file management, storing or transfer (No idea what this means by U-Disc but I believe it's another name for 'flash memory' or MicroSD but, I can't be sure.)
- Built-in voice recording of messages 1 hour capacity (Wow, I CAN RECORD MYSELF SOUNDING HORRIBLE FOR AN HOUR. HORRAY.)
- Windows, MAC & Linux system compatible (It says this yet has drivers on the disc for some bizarre reason, more on this in a bit!)
- Can read/play MP3, WMA, OGG, APE, FLAC and WAV as well as RM/RMVB, AVI and FLV, txtm BMP, JPEG, and PNG formats.

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BUILD QUALITY
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To say the least, I was expecting it to feel crappy. But, I'm surprised that... It's not! It feels weighty in my hand, like, I'm holding more than just a plastic case with a few wires in it like most 'China made' media players. It's roughly the size of a GPS. Maybe a little longer and shorter than average.

The screen is bright, and clear. Another shocking thing for me! I'm used to having screens that look faded and washed out and anything animated leaves a ghost but... No! Not for this! Everything comes in crystal clear, super bright. All the colours look wonderful.

There are 7 buttons on the top. Two for volume, two for moving back and forth in menus--One between them as a sort of 'cancel' button. Then off to the side there is the play/pause button and a 'M' button for entering menus. It's all really interesting and it takes a little to get used to since you'll try leaving the menu and then suddenly hit M by mistake.

The back is a bit.. Odd. This is where the china quality kicks in full-force. It's supposed to have a metallic back but, it feels all gross and weird and doesn't look shiny at all. When I pulled it out of the packaging, it was all black for some reason but a few rubs against my jeans and it disappeared. There's an external speaker/microphone little area. The speaker's quality isn't /bad/ but, it doesn't get very loud and can sound muffled since your hand goes right over it unless you just like, hold it awkwardly by it's sides.

It has four 'ports' or slots, or whatever. One for MicroSD with support up to 32GB (SDHC) cards. A little generic port (those funny round ones) for power to charge it but, it didn't come with it. A mini USB port (thank god), and two ports--One for sound (headphones) and one for video out. It comes with video out cables (odd ones if I might add, you'd usually see YELLOW RED WHITE but these are RED RED BLUE GREEN WHITE, it confused me because seriously, two reds?)

It also came with a little remote. It's like, chicklet buttons. Or bubbles. Or something. They feel weird like they are gonna brust if you press too hard. The remote is only useful for when it's hooked up to a television.

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FIRMWARE
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Now we're really getting into it. From what I can tell, this thing uses a 'Chinachip' which, the company has permission to use real player. Or something. Either way, whoever made it is my hero. Seriously. But we'll get onto the real player thing in a bit.

It seems to come in a HXF format like most china-based firmwares do. I'm not sure if this thing is a clone of another PMP, or it uses someone elses firmware or what but I tore it apart and found out that most of it's icons are unused which is mysterious. I've attached the HXF file for anyone who wants to mess around with it but, almost all of the icons are unused and left alone. It even has a keyboard which you never see, and several wallpapers you never see, as well as a different charging icon (a purple one instead of green, weird), and various icons.

If I'm asked to take down the HXF file I will. It might be at the bottom of the post though not sure.

First thing on the list is called the 'Music hall' with a generic CD icon that looks like it was ripped from Linux of Mac OS. Let's go!

In these options you get 'Playing' which is kinda of what you are currently playing or, the whole list of music on the player. Pretty simple stuff.

Search music--Remember what I said about the keyboard? Guess I was wrong but, either way. You get a keyboard that is hard to navigate and it searches the titles of the music for you. Yeah.

'All songs' is like a browser, just shows all the music on the device and microsd.

'Folder once' is the same thing, I guess it just plays all the music ones in whatever folder you pick.

'Play mode' gives you shuffle, etc.

'Background play'. Meaning if you want to listen to music while reading a .txt file or looking at pictures, you can. It's pretty nice.

'Update jukebox'. I think if you put in a microSD with new music you gotta use this but, I'm not sure. It just scans all the music you have and adds anything it hasn't found.

Next up, is the 'Move Theater'!

I must say this is one of my favorite functions of the thing. I'm shocked at how well it can play video and what shocked me more is the real player logo it shows before you play a video. But, apparently this thing has a 'ChinaChip', http://chinachip.cn/ which is nice. No idea what exactly that /means/ but, it's nice.

'Video' sends you to a browser where you find video files (AVI, FLV, RM/RMVB) Not sure what the last two formats are but it can play AVIs and FLVs--Quite wonderfully if I might add. The quality is great. Nothing lags, it's perfect, oh so perfect.

'Continue play', no idea what this means. Oh well. You can turn it on and off, I haven't noticed anything it does.

'Zoom mode' if your AVI is not wide screen, or is tiny--Or too large, it can zoom in and out to fit the screen. Very nice and almost everything looks wonderful on full screen mode despite being stretched.

'TV Standard' N or B. B makes it flicker on my TV, no idea what it means.

'TV output types'. General output and 'High definition'. The latter seems to just fail on my television and make everything come out as black and white. So I just keep it on general.

Next up is the 'Picture room!'.

This is just a little thing that lets you flip images and view them. Nothing of interest is in here but, it lets you set images as wallpapers. SKIPPING THIS.

'Library'. Keeps libraries of music/images/videos. Again, skipping.

'Recorder', lets you record your voice for up to an hour per file. Lets you pick quality settings. Nothing special and sounds terrible no matter what.

Now onto 'Radio', complete with a podcast icon.

The radio function sucks. Want to know why it sucks? It just sucks. It gives you options if picking an 'area' (china, UK and USA) and then you get to slowly move through the frequencies. But instead of being able to move through it all, it does it in chunks. And if it thinks there is a radio station--it'll stop and force you to listen to barely audible music and static. But it won't line you fine-tune the thing to say, you know the radio channel is 101.5, it'll send you to 101.2 but won't let you go up to 101.5, it'll just throw you into 120.3 or something. Annoying.

Now onto 'Settings'. Horray, messing around!

'About', shows you information about the player. Model, memory free and left. It tells me it's version is 'V1.2.02' whatever that means, it's date is June 2009. Shows the time that is incorrect, no idea how to fix the time.

'Display' sends you to a submenu.

Background lights lets you adjust brightness.
Fonts Colour lets you change the colour of your fonts.
Back to default background resets your background to look like something from the PSP.

'Blight time', I lol'd but it's nothing special. Just lets you pick how long the screen is to stay on.

'Auto off' turns off at a certain amount of time.

'Language' picks language, duh.

'Speaker' On or off, I keep it off because if your headphones get unplugged the speaker blares your music out. Yippie.

'Default set' Restores everything to defaults.

'Lock time settings' Locks the player after a certain amount of time. Nothing special.

Next up is 'Browser'.

Just lets you browse the whole thing and all the files. Nothing special, lets you copy, paste, delete--Etc.

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FINISHING!
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Overall, the thing isn't bad. Heck, I love it and use it for videos and music all the time now. I'll probably keep using it. As for the HXF file, here is the link: http://www.mediafire.com/?yu4iy2n2ymf

I would love someone to help me hack the firmware if they have any experience. Anything from simple icon changes to complete firmware replacement but, it's simply a pipedream.

Sorry if this is in the wrong section, or is not wanted/or needed.


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 Post subject: Re: Missil 4302HD 'MP5' player. (PMP, review.)
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You can go to the modding forum here and learn how to unpack the .HXF file and mod it, repack, and put it back in your player.

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 Post subject: Re: Missil 4302HD 'MP5' player. (PMP, review.)
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The Warrior Poet wrote:
You can go to the modding forum here and learn how to unpack the .HXF file and mod it, repack, and put it back in your player.


I already know how to unpack it and repack it but, I'm afraid of doing it really. I still have the receipt for it but, it's just that little bit of odd worry sort of thing, you know?


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 Post subject: Re: Missil 4302HD 'MP5' player. (PMP, review.)
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I like it! I picked up one of these and I am also impressed with it.

One tip... in order to get the 'u-disc' to mount on the computer, you must go to the Browser, select it so that the Udisk is on the screen, and THEN plug in your USB cable to the 4302HD. If you plug in the cable at any other time, it will charge the device, but it will not mount the drive. (It took me over a day before I figured that one out... I thought my PC was flaking out!)


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 Post subject: Re: Missil 4302HD 'MP5' player. (PMP, review.)
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Holy cow! Someone actually bought that player!
I saw it in a local advertisement for a chain ( XS cargo), and was surprised as this company is usually more than a year behind the curve of chinese players, but, this time, they were only 8~ months behind.
Just so you know, a lot of these players with names like Missil and Hipstreet are usually rebadges or clones from a Chinese manufacturer which is why you will probably never see a Missil forum on this website ( though, I do think we should have a Cube forum- hint hint, nudge nudge Raz :D ).
Anyways, thank you for the review and welcome to the forums. Hopefully your player lasts and you enjoy using it.

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 Post subject: Re: Missil 4302HD 'MP5' player. (PMP, review.)
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Denji wrote:
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MISSIL MP5 PLAYER REVIEW.
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Hi there,

I am interested in this player as well.

I download youtube video from http://www.getyoutubevideo.com all the time. You can get both MP4 and FLV format for any video. I really want to play these videos on this device.

I am wondering if you could do me a favor. Download a video in both MP4 and FLV format, and see if they can be played on this little device. If they can be played, I will go to buy it for sure. :D


Thank you very much in advance. :)


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 Post subject: Re: Missil 4302HD 'MP5' player. (PMP, review.)
PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 9:33 pm 
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this is a CC1600 player, it does not play MP4 files im afraid, no CC1600 player can play MP4 - FLV can play from youtube only and maybe a couple of others too but not play all FLV

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 Post subject: Re: Missil 4302HD 'MP5' player. (PMP, review.)
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saskguy wrote:
I like it! I picked up one of these and I am also impressed with it.

One tip... in order to get the 'u-disc' to mount on the computer, you must go to the Browser, select it so that the Udisk is on the screen, and THEN plug in your USB cable to the 4302HD. If you plug in the cable at any other time, it will charge the device, but it will not mount the drive. (It took me over a day before I figured that one out... I thought my PC was flaking out!)


I never had this issue! How odd, I just plug it in and my computer finds the udisk. I wonder why yours is acting so odd. What operating system are you on? From what I can scratch up on google (barely nothing), it seems that some people have issues with it in vista/7 and this might just help those people out, too!

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Holy cow! Someone actually bought that player!
I saw it in a local advertisement for a chain ( XS cargo), and was surprised as this company is usually more than a year behind the curve of chinese players, but, this time, they were only 8~ months behind.
Just so you know, a lot of these players with names like Missil and Hipstreet are usually rebadges or clones from a Chinese manufacturer which is why you will probably never see a Missil forum on this website ( though, I do think we should have a Cube forum- hint hint, nudge nudge Raz :D ).
Anyways, thank you for the review and welcome to the forums. Hopefully your player lasts and you enjoy using it.


Yeah, I know and kinda figured. But Missil oddly has a lot of rebranded products, but they have no official website or anything. I wish they would at least have a little bit of a 'oh hey yeah we have a website for horrible engrish related help' or something but, I guess not.

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Hi there,

I am interested in this player as well.

I download youtube video from http://www.getyoutubevideo.com all the time. You can get both MP4 and FLV format for any video. I really want to play these videos on this device.

I am wondering if you could do me a favor. Download a video in both MP4 and FLV format, and see if they can be played on this little device. If they can be played, I will go to buy it for sure. :D


Thank you very much in advance. :)


FLV works but a lot of the time ones from youtube end up looking weird. Like, only half of the video appears on the screen and the other half is just the same image as the top, but stretched out and glitchy. Usually if I convert it to RM or RMVB, or AVI it solves this problem.

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this is a CC1600 player, it does not play MP4 files im afraid, no CC1600 player can play MP4 - FLV can play from youtube only and maybe a couple of others too but not play all FLV


CC1600, eh? Well at least gives me a little more of a hint on what to look for and about.


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 Post subject: Re: Missil 4302HD 'MP5' player. (PMP, review.)
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ChinChip CC1600 is the chip used in this player to decode and play the videos. It's good to play most Divx and Xvid files (without Packed Bitstream) YouTube FLV, and RVMB but that's it.

I assume you bought those at XsCargo here in Canada? They are rebandred player from another Chineese manufacturer and you will probably will never find the appropriate firmware for those. So I suggest not to try updating the firmware without making a backup of the drive.

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ChinChip CC1600 is the chip used in this player to decode and play the videos. It's good to play most Divx and Xvid files (without Packed Bitstream) YouTube FLV, and RVMB but that's it.

I assume you bought those at XsCargo here in Canada? They are rebandred player from another Chineese manufacturer and you will probably will never find the appropriate firmware for those. So I suggest not to try updating the firmware without making a backup of the drive.

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Actually it came with a disc with a backup program and the firmware on it, too. Apparently the program can be used to de-brick a player, too.

All you gotta do to update the firmware is hold down the power and - volume down buttons. I've made several custom firmwares now, although I need to find less crappy looking icons.


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Better than I thought. I least if somethnig happen, your can repair it.

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I've had and enjoyed this unit now for almost a year, but a few weeks ago it would take several attempts to get the unit to boot up. Now it refuses to get past the the dim screen with the silhouette of the dancing hot chick. It just sits there and will not go further, even when plugged into the usb port for. There used to be pin hole reset buttons on devices like this but there is none on this.
Has anyone experienced this on their units or have a solution.

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 Post subject: Re: Missil 4302HD 'MP5' player. (PMP, review.)
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I can link you to a guide, and denji posted a firmware above (IF the correct one), but you would still need to find the burn tool, and the .dl, and .bin file to go with it for recovery.

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 Post subject: Re: Missil 4302HD 'MP5' player. (PMP, review.)
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Thanks, Warrior. Sounds complicated. I think I'll just ditch it and find something else.


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 Post subject: Re: Missil 4302HD 'MP5' player. (PMP, review.)
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Well, it's easy if you can find the right files, but that, unfortunately is the problem here.

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