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http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/ecnokia/
This looks much better although it has no internal memory, I think it would be better to bundle wit with a card?

http://gizmologia.com/2006/06/pmp-tinnos-blufin
This looks nice also

As for the first one (the new nano knockoff), the big drawback is actually the touch screen. With a screen that small already (despite adding a need .5" to it), it's pretty impractical to have a touch screen on something so tiny. Selection (especially with big fingers) would be VERY difficult.

As for the second player, blufin has been around for a while making good quality (though second tier next to Creative, Archos, iRiver, Cowon, and I hate to say, Apple) HDD players. With a 4.3" screen a 30gb hd, that's a pretty standard HDD PMP. It's very nice aesthetically. I guess it's popularity would come down to if it offers competitive pricing (that is, if they want to sell them over the top tier players, they're going to have to be dirt cheap)! Unfortunately, I can't see on that page where it lists the price.
And looking closer at the pic, it looks like it offers a Windows-based platform that functions as a PDA. This should be a feature that should set it apart from the crowd, too.

If you click the next link under the Spanish description...

http://gizmologia.com/2006/10/bluefin-e ... ro-pmp-gps

...you'll find an even more interesting PMP. It seems to have everything from that first Blufin but also with GPS capability. Now THAT'S a player that could be marketed well!
It features wifi and a 2mp camera. It VOIP compatible (with Skype, etc) and, best of all, it has the best name I've seen since the Optimus 1 - The Blufin "Extreme Pleasure"!

Sound naughty!

Looks like it runs for 400€, which is about $586 US.

THAT'S A LOT OF COIN!

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My Music Player List:
Creative Zen Vision W (60gb)
Nationite OS-43 (16gb)
Chuwi M70+ (8gb)
Nationite S:Flo (8gb)
RAmos v80 (2gb)

In Memoriam of the "Optimus 1" - Lest we ne'er forget.

http://brycewi.blogspot.com/

Just was thinking on the "Extreme Pleasure", that for that much money and for what that system is running (as it pretty much is a min-laptop), it really should be coming with more that 30gb of hd space. Offer 80gb and then we'll talk.

Oh, and lower that friggin' price tag! I mean, what is it, the new Meizu M8?

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My Music Player List:
Creative Zen Vision W (60gb)
Nationite OS-43 (16gb)
Chuwi M70+ (8gb)
Nationite S:Flo (8gb)
RAmos v80 (2gb)

In Memoriam of the "Optimus 1" - Lest we ne'er forget.

http://brycewi.blogspot.com/

Looks nice,and since it's windows can't u port some games?

that other ipod knockoff is touch screen??

how is that much different that tne Onda vx878? it has the same screen size and is a touchscreen?

That's always been my "issue" with the 878. Touch screens that size aren't really well suited for people with "bigger" fingers. The recognition isn't quite good enough on these players (unlike the new itouch/iphone recognition, sadly).

I don't know, touch screen on a 2" player just seems a bit pointless.

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My Music Player List:
Creative Zen Vision W (60gb)
Nationite OS-43 (16gb)
Chuwi M70+ (8gb)
Nationite S:Flo (8gb)
RAmos v80 (2gb)

In Memoriam of the "Optimus 1" - Lest we ne'er forget.

http://brycewi.blogspot.com/

i agree, the VX878 is small but still workable

but a touch screen on a 2.0" screen - it'll be more trouble than its worth

the screen is not 2", it is 2.4" as stated in the article.